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I own none of the lenses you mention, but if I were you, I'd buy the 8mm f2.8 (which seems very nice, small enough and can be found at decent prices), the 16mm f2.4 and the 30mm f2. The total expense would be, imho, more or less the same of the 12-24 lens and you'd have: 1) much faster aperture at every focal lenght 2) larger focal range (8-30mm vs 12-24mm) 3) possibly higher quality, being those prime lenses Of course you'd have more a compact solution with the 12-24mm lens, but you don't even know when this lens is available, so my suggestion is to go with those 3 excellent primes.

8mm on APS-C is really really wide. Do you really want to go that wide? I think the 12-24 offers a much more usable range.

simontramper wrote: What's your opinion on this please .I cannot decide between getting the 12-24mm or getting the 8mm and 14mm samyang lens .Cost will be close between both sets ,MF does not bother me .I am just after the best optics for landscape work done with a tripod .I know the 12-24 is not out yet but what way would you jump given the choice .

We might have to wait for the 12-24 mm to see how it performs on the NX20 or other 20 MP sensors. The Samyang 8 mm f/2.8 requires corners to be fixed using corner fix on the 20 MP sensor cameras. The f/3.5 version from an SLR would probably be fine, but is a much larger lens. For the focal length range, I think the 12-24 mm sounds the most useful, and it is only about the size of a kit lens, not a large lens at all. Eric

viking79 wrote: We might have to wait for the 12-24 mm to see how it performs on the NX20 or other 20 MP sensors.

i'd agree with that. 12-24mm sounds real nice, but only it performs well. 8mm is a fisheye isnt it ?. if so its great for a week and then it will gather dust.

paulhome wrote:

viking79 wrote: We might have to wait for the 12-24 mm to see how it performs on the NX20 or other 20 MP sensors.

i'd agree with that. 12-24mm sounds real nice, but only it performs well. 8mm is a fisheye isnt it ?. if so its great for a week and then it will gather dust.

Correct, and it doesn't focus close for a fisheye either. Some of my favorite fisheye shots are near macro level. However, you can always correct the distortion and have a fairly wide angle lens if you don't mind taking a bit of a hit in the corners. Eric

I have this horrible feeling the 12-24 is not going to be as good as we want it to be . Don't know if the 16-50 f2.8 constant has been binned . Just feel the 12-24 has been done on the cheap .

Having thought hard on this i am going to get the 85mm and wait until the rumoured 24mm comes out ,while watching the reviews on the 12-24 .

simontramper wrote: What's your opinion on this please .I cannot decide between getting the 12-24mm or getting the 8mm and 14mm samyang lens .Cost will be close between both sets ,MF does not bother me .I am just after the best optics for landscape work done with a tripod .I know the 12-24 is not out yet but what way would you jump given the choice .

depends when you need it. I'm not much of a fisheye person considering that can be done artificially nowadays. personally I would get the 12-24 for flexibility. AF is an added benefit. I don't usually mf unless I'm shooting in really dark situations or doing macro or shooting at really fast apertures.