D2x experiences

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As some of you may recall I'm very satisfied with my SLR/n but I always missed the possibility to use some of my lenses. Mainly I shoot from 45 mm focal length up, so wide angle is not so important for me. I decided some months ago I want the new D2x and since one week I'm shooting with mine. So I thought you guys maybe interested in some first impressions here, even if we have now enough comments about the D2x elsewhere. It's a great relief for me to use my 85PC Nikkor again, as it such a great lens and wasn't used by me since the one year I have the SLR/n. The VR70-200 works fine again too, even with some (mild) distortion left. To be able to use the 58 mm Noct. and AIS 35/1.4 with full matrix metering and without switching the camera to manual is very welcomed too. The viewfinder is very bright, brighter as the one in the SLR/n, but the frame seems not as large. The D2x reacts with everything instantly. When you shoot and have auto review on, the photo is instantly on the LCD. I made a print of maximum size on my Epson 7600 (shot with 85 PC) and would say the quality is comparable (if not better in some areas) too the SLR/n. Using uncompressed RAW (NEF) I got a comletely artefact free print which was so smooth, it reminded me on a print I made from a file I shot with the Phase One P25 (a few may remember my test of it) - no kidding. The SLR/n maybe a little bit sharper but D2x files don't need much sharpening too IMO. I'm not an expert when it comes to colors but for me the D2x is often too saturated, even when I use the low contrast setting in Nikon Capture. Now I use a custom curve (in camera) made by the programmer of Raw Magic and the colors are much more the way we all like them from the Kodaks. The SLR/n, combined with ACR 2.3, seems to have an advantage in dynamic range but I wait until ACR 3 can read D2x files for final conclusions. The D2x is a very balanced camera in every sense of the words, there is no fiddling, no workaround, just concentration on the photo - that's a big plus. Handling is superb and the camera fits my hand like a glove. At the moment I use the SLR/n as the backup and enjoy the 'new' freedom to use all my lenses without second thoughts. I hope my description of first impressions with the D2x were not boring to read. -- Nirto Karsten Fischer

my next camera would have to be at least 22 mp otherwise its not worth the bother , and again no AA filter and full frame , or larger. Ive used my SLRn all over ther world , doing calendar pictures , and i must say its worked like a dream. We intertopulate (spelling) up to 100 meg file sizes , and all i can say is that the clients have said "please no more film". One change thought , the clents are ALL now asking for the RAW file to be sent with the JPG. (pre press monitors are calibrated differently). Regards to nikon users. george

its really a pity that so many of the "old" users of the kodaks have left now to the 1ds2 or the 2dx.... i hope all of you will go on visiting this forums that it can survive some time longer. and ofcourse i understand the advantages of this two cameras... although i am happy that for my specific needs i still could save the money to such a change and so i wait for the next slr generation or what will happen in the mf market. wouldnt be so without this longer mode in the kodak.

rainer viertlboeck wrote: its really a pity that so many of the "old" users of the kodaks have left now to the 1ds2 or the 2dx.... i hope all of you will go on visiting this forums that it can survive some time longer. and ofcourse i understand the advantages of this two cameras... although i am happy that for my specific needs i still could save the money to such a change and so i wait for the next slr generation or what will happen in the mf market. wouldnt be so without this longer mode in the kodak.
If you mean me I can asure you I have no plans to leave the forum, sell the Kodak or alike. I'm still very satisfied with the results I get from the Kodak. As I stated here sometimes I do think 'full frame' and DX format complement each other very good. It's just that I can't use all the same lenses on the Kodak. Even working with cameras as an artist I do think some fun is justified when using such a tool. I started with the D1x in the DSLR area and in some respect other cameras were a step back and I was really hoping for a D1x replacement which has the picture quality of the SLR/n for example. IMO Nikon nailed it with the D2x. I always feel more comfortable to have a second high quality camera for backup. Camera bodies with their different chracteristics are like different films and they're used to take advantage of lenses, not the other way round.

Jono Slack wrote: I'd like to have a go with your custom curve - where did you get it? or could you send it to me?
Hi Jono, it was a thread on Dpreview, which I missed but was made aware of by a german forum, where I'm just lurking. http://forums.dpzen.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=12694873 The link doesn't work anymore - I already sent you the custom curve by mail. Please let me know what you think about it.

could you send the curve to me as well please [email][email protected][/email] thanks

Could you send it to me as well. I would be interested in trying it out. I still make great use my SLR/n and am still building experience with the D2X. John -- ********************* http://photos.johnfhill.com

Hi Jono. Well I guess I just couldnt stay away from this DX2. Bought it last week. Youre right ofcourse. What finally convinced me was the quality of the pixels, not quantity, the images are so incredibly clean. Two things, I agree with you I dont find the images oversaturated, further more I think Nikon has been very conservative with the in-camera sharpening, which is a good thing. On their forum now there is a lot of talks about sharpness, blurry images etc. What have you experienced? By the way The Kodak still stands its ground, would not change it for any camera. regards Fred

Hi Nirto. Well Im pretty curious too, how do you set this curve in the DX2 kind Regards Fred

frederic fahraeus wrote: Well Im pretty curious too, how do you set this curve in the DX2
It's very simple: you load it with Nikon Capture Control into the camera and it's either selected then automatically or you select it in camera instead of other contrast settings (custom curve). In Nikon Capture it will be default selected when you open a NEF (don't know about other RAW converters like Bibble handle this) and you can of course select all the other standard curves as before. -- Nirto Karsten Fischer

Thanks Nirto, going to check it out. regards Fred

I wil certainly agree that the D2x is an excellent camera. On the Nikon side we have the Fuji S-2, Kodak 760 & 14nx and now the D2x. The S-2's have long been parked and for a while the 760 and 14nx have been the std wedding set up. Well, with the D2X in hand, the 14nx will now collect dust. The D2X has the resolution and overall image quality that the 14nx offers but shoots much faster. It takes the best of the 760 and the best of the 14nx and adds a bit on top of that. The small chip takes a little getting used to but it does have some advantages. The 760 and our even older DCS-560 will hang on a bit longer, but the 14nx is a done deal. Jon

I concur with your sentiments though I will keep the kodak for modelling work, as I really prefer FF for people shots. d2x is certainly slick though. I wish the kodak could do iTTL!

how do you set the custom curves in camera for the d2x i have a slr/n as well and would love to know the curves you have set any chance you could send me the details thanks

swinson45 wrote: how do you set the custom curves in camera for the d2x i have a slr/n as well and would love to know the curves you have set any chance you could send me the details
You can upload custom curves to Nikon DSLRs via Nikon Capture and use them instead of the standard curves. You have to have Nikon Capture (Control) for this and the procedure is described in the manuals so please understand I'm not giving a step by step explanation here. I'm not missing this feature with the SLR/n as it is not necessary for it IMO. The D70 was also too saturated for me until I used the custom curves. -- Nirto Karsten Fischer

Hi Nirto I think I concur with everything you say. One interesting point is your saying that the D2x images are too saturated - I quite agree, at least, I agree that they are very saturated, however, it seems to me that one of the few consistent criticisms I've read elsewhere is that they are not saturated enough! I've been using bibble for converting .NEF files - I'm really growing to like it, it's quick, and seems to work well. Like you however, I'm waiting for ACR to work. I've had mine longer than yours, and my first impressions with respect to dynamic range were as yours - but having used it a little longer I'm beginning to feel more comfortable. There is a wealth of shadow detail in there, and any noise resulting is colour free and very 'film like' certainly a change from the noise on the Kodak. Still - although it's a great camera, it certainly doesn't outdo the Kodak in every respect, and in my eyes it rather reinforces my opinion of how great the Kodak camera actually is. I'd like to have a go with your custom curve - where did you get it? or could you send it to me? Kind Regards-- Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk

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