Cost of Printing?

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Does anyone have or know of an approximate cost (per linear foot, etc.) of the ink used for printing on an Epson large format (24" or wider) printer?

Go to http://www.redrivercatalog.com/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html They do not have reports on every printer but the information should give a good start!

When I first got my 7900 I did some tests and came up with $0.63 per square foot printed based on the ink usage reported by the printer for some large prints I made. That was using Atlex ink prices for 350ml ink cartridges. Another way to calculate it is to use the Red River 3880 test results showing 1.4 ml per square foot. That works out to $0.52 per square foot for 350ml ink from Atlex. Not the same printer but the results are a useful confirmation to the $0.63 I got. Tom

Tom-C wrote: Another way to calculate it is to use the Red River 3880 test results showing 1.4 ml per square foot. That works out to $0.52 per square foot for 350ml ink from Atlex.Not the same printer but the results are a useful confirmation to the $0.63 I got. Tom
Once you set up a good and reliable refilling method, you will be at pennies for sq foot. My 3800 is printing reliiably and beautifuly using 80 ml refillable carts from Inkjetcarts ( extremely relliable carts ) and K3 ink set from OCP Germany and Rjetteck ( USA ) Total cost per ML ( 16 oz bottles and Alll 9 colors combined and prices averaged ) turns about 3 cents per ml so using the above formula for the 3880 I am printing as good as OEM ( Better after profiling with CM ) you can print at 4.2 cents per SQ foot. Oh and in case anyone is wondering whether you have to compromise in quality, the answer is a resounding NO!!!!! Gorgeous results. Not just a happy, but an ecstatic CAMPER here!

jtoolman wrote:
Tom-C wrote: Another way to calculate it is to use the Red River 3880 test results showing 1.4 ml per square foot. That works out to $0.52 per square foot for 350ml ink from Atlex.Not the same printer but the results are a useful confirmation to the $0.63 I got. Tom
Once you set up a good and reliable refilling method, you will be at pennies for sq foot. My 3800 is printing reliiably and beautifuly using 80 ml refillable carts from Inkjetcarts ( extremely relliable carts ) and K3 ink set from OCP Germany and Rjetteck ( USA ) Total cost per ML ( 16 oz bottles and Alll 9 colors combined and prices averaged ) turns about 3 cents per ml so using the above formula for the 3880 I am printing as good as OEM ( Better after profiling with CM ) you can print at 4.2 cents per SQ foot. Oh and in case anyone is wondering whether you have to compromise in quality, the answer is a resounding NO!!!!! Gorgeous results. Not just a happy, but an ecstatic CAMPER here!
That's the trouble with the 3800 those tiny carts. I never worked out the cost on my 4800 but using 220 ml carts i hope works out much cheaper. I would like a 3800 but the cart size put me off. They could have easily designed ot so that larger carts could have been used as well as the little ones. Why didn't they I wonder.

JulesJ wrote:
jtoolman wrote:
Tom-C wrote: Another way to calculate it is to use the Red River 3880 test results showing 1.4 ml per square foot. That works out to $0.52 per square foot for 350ml ink from Atlex.Not the same printer but the results are a useful confirmation to the $0.63 I got. Tom
Once you set up a good and reliable refilling method, you will be at pennies for sq foot. My 3800 is printing reliiably and beautifuly using 80 ml refillable carts from Inkjetcarts ( extremely relliable carts ) and K3 ink set from OCP Germany and Rjetteck ( USA ) Total cost per ML ( 16 oz bottles and Alll 9 colors combined and prices averaged ) turns about 3 cents per ml so using the above formula for the 3880 I am printing as good as OEM ( Better after profiling with CM ) you can print at 4.2 cents per SQ foot. Oh and in case anyone is wondering whether you have to compromise in quality, the answer is a resounding NO!!!!! Gorgeous results. Not just a happy, but an ecstatic CAMPER here!
That's the trouble with the 3800 those tiny carts. I never worked out the cost on my 4800 but using 220 ml carts i hope works out much cheaper. I would like a 3800 but the cart size put me off. They could have easily designed ot so that larger carts could have been used as well as the little ones. Why didn't they I wonder.
There are larger refillable carts for the 3800 and 3880 not just the 80ml ones. I don't find I would need 220 ml carts unless I was printing 17x22s on a daily basis.

jtoolman wrote:
Tom-C wrote: Another way to calculate it is to use the Red River 3880 test results showing 1.4 ml per square foot. That works out to $0.52 per square foot for 350ml ink from Atlex.Not the same printer but the results are a useful confirmation to the $0.63 I got. Tom
Once you set up a good and reliable refilling method, you will be at pennies for sq foot. My 3800 is printing reliiably and beautifuly using 80 ml refillable carts from Inkjetcarts ( extremely relliable carts ) and K3 ink set from OCP Germany and Rjetteck ( USA ) Total cost per ML ( 16 oz bottles and Alll 9 colors combined and prices averaged ) turns about 3 cents per ml so using the above formula for the 3880 I am printing as good as OEM ( Better after profiling with CM ) you can print at 4.2 cents per SQ foot. Oh and in case anyone is wondering whether you have to compromise in quality, the answer is a resounding NO!!!!! Gorgeous results. Not just a happy, but an ecstatic CAMPER here!
Agreed. With Con Color inks available, it's insane to pay Epson prices.

Todd Ka wrote:
jtoolman wrote:
Tom-C wrote: Another way to calculate it is to use the Red River 3880 test results showing 1.4 ml per square foot. That works out to $0.52 per square foot for 350ml ink from Atlex.Not the same printer but the results are a useful confirmation to the $0.63 I got. Tom
Once you set up a good and reliable refilling method, you will be at pennies for sq foot. My 3800 is printing reliiably and beautifuly using 80 ml refillable carts from Inkjetcarts ( extremely relliable carts ) and K3 ink set from OCP Germany and Rjetteck ( USA ) Total cost per ML ( 16 oz bottles and Alll 9 colors combined and prices averaged ) turns about 3 cents per ml so using the above formula for the 3880 I am printing as good as OEM ( Better after profiling with CM ) you can print at 4.2 cents per SQ foot. Oh and in case anyone is wondering whether you have to compromise in quality, the answer is a resounding NO!!!!! Gorgeous results. Not just a happy, but an ecstatic CAMPER here!
Agreed. With Con Color inks available, it's insane to pay Epson prices.
Epson inks certainly are VERY expensive and there are more than just the Cone non OEM inks that are excellent and logically priced with excellent results. Most of them are discussed on this Forum. -- Vernon...

Todd Ka wrote:
jtoolman wrote:
Tom-C wrote: Another way to calculate it is to use the Red River 3880 test results showing 1.4 ml per square foot. That works out to $0.52 per square foot for 350ml ink from Atlex.Not the same printer but the results are a useful confirmation to the $0.63 I got. Tom
Once you set up a good and reliable refilling method, you will be at pennies for sq foot. My 3800 is printing reliiably and beautifuly using 80 ml refillable carts from Inkjetcarts ( extremely relliable carts ) and K3 ink set from OCP Germany and Rjetteck ( USA ) Total cost per ML ( 16 oz bottles and Alll 9 colors combined and prices averaged ) turns about 3 cents per ml so using the above formula for the 3880 I am printing as good as OEM ( Better after profiling with CM ) you can print at 4.2 cents per SQ foot. Oh and in case anyone is wondering whether you have to compromise in quality, the answer is a resounding NO!!!!! Gorgeous results. Not just a happy, but an ecstatic CAMPER here!
Agreed. With Con Color inks available, it's insane to pay Epson prices.
I agree, Epson inks are extortionately expensive, but I still use then. My experiences with om inks have no been good. I just can't chance things going wrong when printing for our clients, especially b&w where colour profiling is even more critical than with colour. Still, the cost of ink per print is pretty negligeable even at £75 a cart.

O.K., my 7800 is equipped with Epson carts. Is there a 3rd party refillable ink brand that gives the same color quality and fade resistance as Epson does?

I have tried Cone, Image Specialists, Ink Republic, and OCP pigment inks and like Cone the best. Cone has better gloss than OEM, matches the OEM colors extremely well, but any 3rd party and even OEM inks benefit from custom profiling. From my real world fade test Cone fades the same as OEM so far. Acclerated fade tests on Cone ink has recently begun by an independent lab. http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.11/category.9768/.f Bob P.

Petruska wrote: I have tried Cone, Image Specialists, Ink Republic, and OCP pigment inks and like Cone the best. Cone has better gloss than OEM, matches the OEM colors extremely well, but any 3rd party and even OEM inks benefit from custom profiling.
Benefit? I wouldn't print anything professionally withou a profile, and on made frm my printer on my paper too, not a generic one. For me it is he only way to get the best out of your printer.
From my real world fade test Cone fades the same as OEM so far. Acclerated fade tests on Cone ink has recently begun by an independent lab. http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.11/category.9768/.f Bob P.

landscaper1 wrote: O.K., my 7800 is equipped with Epson carts. Is there a 3rd party refillable ink brand that gives the same color quality and fade resistance as Epson does?
No

Tom-C wrote: Another way to calculate it is to use the Red River 3880 test results showing 1.4 ml per square foot. That works out to $0.52 per square foot for 350ml ink from Atlex. Not the same printer but the results are a useful confirmation to the $0.63 I got.
Confirmation? Your price is 20% higher than Red River's! Do they use differently priced cartridges even?!

RedFox88 wrote:
Tom-C wrote: Another way to calculate it is to use the Red River 3880 test results showing 1.4 ml per square foot. That works out to $0.52 per square foot for 350ml ink from Atlex. Not the same printer but the results are a useful confirmation to the $0.63 I got.
Confirmation? Your price is 20% higher than Red River's! Do they use differently priced cartridges even?!
Ink cost is anything but an exact measurement. The content of the image being printed will affect how much ink is used per unit area. For example, daylight in the snow would use less ink than a night scene. So I consider results within 20% to be equivalent. The only way to get an exact cost of ink is to make the print and then look at the actual ink consumption reported by the printer. This only works with Epson's wide format printers that have such a report. Tom

Tom-C wrote:
RedFox88 wrote:
Tom-C wrote: Another way to calculate it is to use the Red River 3880 test results showing 1.4 ml per square foot. That works out to $0.52 per square foot for 350ml ink from Atlex. Not the same printer but the results are a useful confirmation to the $0.63 I got.
Confirmation? Your price is 20% higher than Red River's! Do they use differently priced cartridges even?!
Ink cost is anything but an exact measurement. The content of the image being printed will affect how much ink is used per unit area. For example, daylight in the snow would use less ink than a night scene. So I consider results within 20% to be equivalent. The only way to get an exact cost of ink is to make the print and then look at the actual ink consumption reported by the printer. This only works with Epson's wide format printers that have such a report. Tom
Your comment: "So I consider results within 20% to be equivalent." Anyone that needs to be more precise than your results -- probably don't need to be doing any type of Photo printing. Printing is expensive, however; Sometimes it is like the old saying "If we need to ask the price -- then, can we afford it".

Vernon D Rainwater wrote: Your comment: "So I consider results within 20% to be equivalent." Anyone that needs to be more precise than your results -- probably don't need to be doing any type of Photo printing. Printing is expensive, however; Sometimes it is like the old saying "If we need to ask the price -- then, can we afford it".
And for anyone printing as a business, that 20% uncertainty in ink cost should be small compared to their profit margin. Tom

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